Monday, July 14, 2008

The TRUTH About VIT!!!

Please READ the Whole of IT. It might seem lenghty but will stop you from commiting a
mistake. It took me half an hour too write .. but it takes less than 10 mins to read. (i
wish someon else had written this b4 i joined this college.)

So all you people might have bought tha amazing looking brochure. N might have seen the DVD.
I heard 2 lakh people are giving this exam this time. WOW. That is more than the people who
applied for IIT-JEE in 2005. Now you might think that this college looks so awesum .. WOW ..
i must be here .. So beautiful campus .. SHIT ! Its too good .. look at the placements !!
look at the library ! the hostel !!! the tt !! .. and so on.. initially my reaction was the
same .. but all this is just something to attract lot of students .. now let me tell you a
lil about myself. M in 1st year EEE , From VIT , From New Delhi . I came to vit in the
second counselin itself. The campus is brilliant but lemme tell you the xperience's

* The management at the VIT is rotten to the core. And i mean it. After counselling, which
went pretty well , we had the hostel room allotement. So you might be thinking .. it went
pretty well too .. but lemme tell yu .. the hostel allotment was the worst.. even tho these
ppl have the rooms... they will make yu go around thousand times .. ask yu to waste 3 days..
the chief warden here is a madman. So after 4 days of fighting,stayin in a hotel i got a
room . But cudnt blieve it .. man it was 6 bed room the size of 3 normal size bathrooms put
together.. lolz ... man believe me it SUCKs.. actually the 3 bed room is converted into six
bed.. cuz they have increased the intake from 1200 to 1600 way more than the campus can
support ,, and the hostels too .. so the same is going to happen to YOU. hehehe .. nwz as we
continue .. the TT looks so SEXY from outside .. but the instant u go in the class in first
sem .. itz like worse then the classrooms in the govt college. i dont know but i may be
feelin this cuz i studied in a good skul in delhi fer 14 years but still this DUZNT
happen... the scond thing is that each class will contain aroun 120 students .. lolz ... so
first sem u r dead. they are corrupted takin in managemnt students more than they shud .
they take bribes n everything .. they are worse than govt officials.

* The teachers at VIT are damn bad.. n thats the truth.. most of the teachers at vit are
taken straight from college 4 years ( oders ) having no educational teaching xperience.. so
they are south indians... with south indian incomprehensible accent ( no offense but its not
understandable ) n some unknown grudge n a mighty ego against the students. SO the situation
TILL NOW. You are stuck in a 6 bed room ( if u come l8 fer counselling ) .. u are sittin in
a very bad class wid 120 students n a sucky teacher whu duznt know wat he is teaching n its
bloody hot n the room duznt have an a/c.

* The life at vit is unbearable. there are almost no xtraciricular activities. u dont know
wat is happenin wen. i heard that there are more than 50 grps n activities.. so i joind the
music club as i play guitar n stuff. But to my astonishment , the music room was friggin
small ... it was like 3mx3m . with broken drumsets n broken guitar n broken stuff.. n no
proper system fer bands to play . its the seniours who decide who is goin to play .. but
luckily ( thanks to a surprise visit by DD tv to check the "social" life of the campus ) we
got a bigger room .. bbut overall lemme tell u. ur attendance should be 75 % n no grants are
given fer extraciricular activietes. The management motto is " SHUT UP N STUDY or Leave the
college ".

* so the teachers dont know how to teach n there are no xtracircular activites n college
gettogethers. To add to this .. the study load is too much. We have got the CAM system ( the
" Continious Assesment Marks " which continuassly "assess" ur performance at the xam ) so
after a month of attending classes and not grasping anythng the CAM were here.I fortunately
passes by studyin a day b4. lol . So after celebrating .. they were there again .. after a
month to haunt me ... n then there are friggin model test in labs , so many labs to cope up
with , so many classes . the studies in vit is mark oriented. u do practicals widout ne1
xplainin nething.n then after a month the terminal xams. ultimately the situation is
everyday ur havin n xam n u get seriously f'd up < get the meaning>

* now the situation is ur copin wid xams , fitin a battle everyday hehe . So u basically
want to socialise wid the ppl around. But according to vit .. Socialisation = Boy+Boy or
Girl+Girl .. no boy- girl combination .. gulz are supposed to get in the hostels strait
after the class ..leavin half an hour margin for friendz to meet... n boyz are off limits
the gulz hostel in around 100 m radius.the management thinks that all boys are perverted or
crap like that.. they are still living in medieval age.Oh i almost fergot.. if gulz
have to leave the campus they cant go out fer more than 2 hrs n they have to submit
sum kinda card at the gate so as to know where u r goin.

* also in the nearby area .. there is NO life .. u shud see the only cinema hall here .. i
havent seen a single muv after the first one i saw over here. fullstop.
No barista , no ccd , no place to hang out wid frenz xcept food court wich u eventually get
bored off .. no malls nuthin .. vellore is a village.

* u mit have seen the placement companies. highest taker is tcs. highest package offer :4
lakhs. avg 2 lakhs. No foriegn placements ( u mit have seen many "abroad" placements
cmpanies in the brochure but after comin here u will know that is all lies .. they get 1
student place there intentionally n then say that company name. last time IBM took only 2
students or sumthin like that n they say that IBM was ther fer campus placements.lolz.
liars.the 9 pointer n the 6 pointer < that is like 90 percentile and 60 percentile > have
the same placement, so no use to study.

Now fer hosteleers ///
* boys intime 9 PM. First years. Seniours 9 30. ( what the hell)
* No camera cells allowed < ? why the hell > n if caught u get after 4 years.
* You dont give ur laptops to ne1 else or the laptop is seized ( this is the most funny n
stupid rule Razz )
* You dont watch muv's in the night on ur laptop or the laptop is seized.
* 9 PM - 3 AM is study hrz. so u shud study n not make noise.
* There may be routine cheks on your mobile phone. The pro chancellor may ask to c ur cell ,
search it , if found any obscene msgs or pix , ur parents will be called.My frend had his
gf's msg n the registrar called up his father that he has msgs from his gf. LOOOL.
*u cant enter the hostel after intime .
*u hafto give attendance every night in the hostels. ( U heard it right.) So if u absent
someday u hafto give xplanation.
*if u wanto go fer a vacation : u hafto run from hostel to main building and back fer at
least 3 times cuz of take sign from the coordinator, mess supervisor ( for mess refund) the
chief warden.
* life is very tuf for gulz . the wardens are very bad n interfering in personal matter.
some frnd of mine dont even stay out till 8 on tuesdays wen its allowd to stay out l8 that
day cuz she will ask quesions
* they mit suspend u or debar u.
* they may pass ne new new rule in the middle of the semester without proper guidelines <
for eg they passed this new rule that 75% attendnce less wont b alloed to write the xam wen
the sem waS going to end. earlier it was pay 2000 rs n go away. so i thght i will pay 2000
bux ..n i dint attend the first now i m screwd up >
* " Are you trying to be the leader ", is the response u get from chief warden if u take ne
complaints to him . lol . n he is the dumbest person alive.
* u get very very very bad food.
*its damn xpensive.
* its damn overcrowded. {one badminton court for 1200 ppl.}
* everyone in the management says they dont know n go to the other person.
* u shud have influence in order to survive.
* the tv closes at 9 pm in the night. < due to the study hrs >
*water coolers on alternate floors. TV's on alternate floors. I dont know the logic behind
* u cant play guitar after 9 or do ne other xtra ciricular activites.
A conversation b/w me n pandian < the chief warden > wen i was teachin a person guitar
P: " gimme ur id card"
me:" Sir plz sorry"
P: " Gimme or i call the security guard"
me:" but sir..."
me :" Sorry sir"
P: " I ll slap you hard n den say sorry. I will make sure u wont get a hostel room next sem.
Yes i will make sure.. gime the permission for keeping the guitar. where is it .. u dont
have it ?? i ll make sure u wont get the room next time"
[me gives the ID card n is extremely humiliated in front of his frendz,]

So the story till now : u r in 6 bed room ( wich is orignally 3 bed ), u have sucky
teachers,sucky classes,sucky labs,sucky crowd ,sucky college life , no gulfrend or boy frend
, no xtra ciricular activites nuthin ,you r in a jail. n thats tha truth.

For more references /
go to pissed off by VIT community on orkut.< currently 800 members thats equivalent 30 % of
the college hostel students others will join >
go to vit community on orkut.

M writin this cuz i sufferd n m again preparing for entrances ,,, so that i can get away
from this hell.

nwz more queries , feel free to ask .. if u havent recieved the admit card ,, go with the
application fotostat cuz the management duznt care n loses applications easily.if they say
they havnt recvd it , they probbly have lost it.


A visit to VIT
In a older post I had said that VIT's position in India Today's ranking was undeserved. Well yesterday I had the chance to go to VIT. My cousin sister had counselling in VIT and my Mama had asked me to come along. What I saw at VIT is divided into 3 parts. The good, the bad and the ugly.

The good
1. The buildings at VIT look absolutely gorgeous from the outside. The library in particular was really well done. I wish we had a library like that (I'm talking just about the building here) in IIIT.
2. A building called the technology tower was also very impressive with it's hanging gardens theme.
3. Canteen Rocks!
4. Sports facilities were pretty good. A tad over-indulgent to be honest.
5. Nice lawns. the walkways have small shades built all over them to escape from the sun which I hear is pretty strong usually.

The Bad
1. During the counselling they totally mis-represented the placements. When I asked for an average for the CS department the answer was it's somewhere between 3 and 5 lpa. When I asked for a number, I was, after a lot of persuasion, given a number of 3.3 Lpa by somebody in the PAT dept.
2. I wanted to go and check out the the CS department. I was stopped by one of the many rude security guards present in the campus. When I insisted he took me to some faculty member who was apparently a prof. He asked me stuff like "why do you want to see the dept.?", "What is the point in speaking to he faculty?" etc... I then walked into the office of the Public relations officer who, scared of me creating a scene told the guard to take me to the CS department. Why would you stop people from checking out departments?
3. There are apparently 500 students in a single batch of computer science. I enquired about this branch coz this is the one my cousin is joining. 500 people! Source P.R.Officer

The ugly

1.In the batch of 500 students 266 seats were offered through counselling and the rest i.e.234 were offered under the management quota. This is shocking. So much so that I confirmed this thrice. Once with the PRO, once with the admissions office and once more with some CS faculty!! Apparently the numbers for ECE and some extent EEE are also rather identical!! For those people who had commented on my blog about VIT offering only 10% seats through donations....People go check you figures. These are shocking proportions to take through management quotas!!
2. After I manged to get into the CS dept. I spoke to some faculty members. I cannot express in words how poor they were. VIT has about 180 faculty members in the CS dept. Of these 3~4 have PhD's the rest of the people have a background. I spoke to about 15 faculty members and hardly anyone was capable of carrying out a conversation on any academic lines. I was left speechless at how unbelievable bad there are. I have absolutely no idea of how these people are going to educate students in the art of CS! Here is a part of a conversation I had with 3 faculty members. All 3 were senior lecturers. I will not use names Razz

f1: What are doing(as in where are u studying?)
me: sir I'm at IIIT-h. I'm a dual degree student. I'm doing my ms/r part right now.
f1: what is ms/r
me: This means you will get your MS for research work and not coursework. You will have to produce some research work that will form your thesis and after that you need to defend it.(some more explanation about msbr followed)
f2: So you don't do any courses in your final year?
me: yeah pretty much. The focus is on research.
f2: Tch Tch what kind of a PG course is this? You should look at the course at VIT. We teach our students advanced concepts like software engg and java programming!
f3: so You need to just present a few papers and you get your MS?
me:(utterly shaken state) Yes thats it ...just a few papers(sigh!)

some time later we came to the topic of placements.

f2: we had very good placements this year. M$ , google and yahoo came here.
me: How many people did google hire?
f2: Google didn't hire anybody.
f3: actually google's selection process was wrong. They allowed only computer science people to sit for their written tests and in that written test they asked things that were out of syllabus.
At this point I started to giggle!
f3: Why man ...what is so funny?
me: Nothing sir...I was just thinking how silly these IT companies can be! Asking things out of syllabus is really atrocious Very Happy

There is a lotta more masala where this came from but I shall not write it in respect of those Studying at VIT (which includes my cousin Razz)

But on a more serious note what I saw at VIT was the unholy nexus of money and education in it's full fury. While I'm not against institutes charging very high fees, I'm against institutes selling them. Also I have now developed great respect for those who study at VIT and manage to do well with their careers. It's a credit to them to be able to emerge from this mess and do well. I hope my cousin can do the same.

And for India today and all those who campaigned for VIT on one of my previous posts. It is very irresponsible of you to attempt to position VIT as a top class institute ahead of NIT-T,NIT-w and IIIT-h. For those who study there and know the place I'm even more shocked that they would consider lobbying for VIT. With the faculty you have and the method of admissions....all your infrastructure counts for absolutely nothing. I never ever imagined that the faculty would be so so atrociously bad. Good luck to whoever studies there.



Friday, July 11, 2008


Top 10
If you are getting a BE in the Top 10 engg colleges of India then blindly go for a BE.

Top 25

If you are getting a BE in the Top 25 engg colleges of India then blindly go for a BE except that SRCC BA Hons or B Com Hons courses can tie with these colleges too if not beat them hands down.

Top 50
A BE in these colleges is better than any BA/BSc Hons other than SRCC.

Top 100
A BE from these colleges is equivalent if not better than a BSc/BA Hons especially in Eco or Maths from the best colleges like Top 5(or even 10) colleges in DU. At this stage you can have some confusion.

Top 200
You can still consider going for these engg colleges however personally I would prefer to go for Top 10 colleges of DU or equivalent colleges.

Top 500
Go for a BSc/BA Hons in a reputed college!

Thursday, July 10, 2008

PEC First Round Cutoffs!!!

Manipal Waitlist Status!!!

Branch: Aeronautical
Waitlist No: 23
Cutoff Rank: 3345

Branch: Automobile
Waitlist No: 25
Cutoff Rank: 3748

Branch: Biomedical
Waitlist No: 46
Cutoff Rank: 4935

Branch: Chemical
Waitlist No: 57
Cutoff Rank: 4312

Branch: Civil
Waitlist No: 58
Cutoff Rank: 3733

Branch: Computers
Waitlist No: 82
Cutoff Rank: 1994

Branch: ECE
Waitlist No: 57
Cutoff Rank: 1657

Branch: EEE
Waitlist No: 108
Cutoff Rank: 2945

Branch: ICE
Waitlist No: 40
Cutoff Rank: 3825

Branch: IPE
Waitlist No: 34
Cutoff Rank: 4074

Branch: IT
Waitlist No: 72
Cutoff Rank: 2641

Branch: Mechanical
Waitlist No: 106
Cutoff Rank: 2953

Branch: Mechatronics
Waitlist No: 58
Cutoff Rank: 3200

Branch: Printing Technology
Waitlist No: 56
Cutoff Rank: 5665

Monday, July 7, 2008

AIEEE Counseling Procedure Explained!!!

AIEEE Counseling Procedure Explained!!!

There are two forms: Form 1 and Form 2. Both these forms are optional.

You fill your choices in order of preference in Form 1 out of the choices which are available on the day of your counseling. Depending upon your AIR and subject demand you are allotted the subject from your preference list.

Once you are allotted a subject in a college, it becomes frozen and can not be changed. There is no sliding during the counseling procedure. So if you meet any of the cutoffs, you just get that course.

In case you don't get through any course through Form 1 or leave Form 2 blank, then Form 2 comes into play. You only mention the institutes you want to go to in that form in order of preference.

If there is any vacant seat in any course in that institute in Form 2 you will be allotted it based on your AIR. If you don't make it to the first choice then comes the second institute within Form 2.

In case you don't have an AIR good enough to get anything you asked for in Form 2 either then you don't get anything through AIEEE counseling.

People were really confused about the system, I have attended my counseling and this is what I know.

Do I stand a chance in Second Counseling?

Thumb Rule:

I read on Ankur Gupta's website that NIT first counseling goes up to 8000 AIR while second counseling goes up to 12000 AIR. From this I inferred that at whatever rank a subject finishes in the first counseling, say AIR 10000 for instance, there is a good chance that it will finally go around 50% more of that rank, ie. 15000 in this case. To be realistic you can expect a difference of 25-50% I guess...

Let the cutoff rank in First Counseling be X.

If your rank lies within:

Sure shot chance!

Almost sure shot chance!

Good chance!

Some chance!

Very slim chance!

These figures are especially valid for AIR equal or better than 10000 in first counseling. The statistics may change for ranks which are >10000 to some/great extent.

These Cutoffs are basically for AIEEE Second Central Counseling for NITs, PEC, Thapar etc...

First Round Cutoffs!!!



CSE: 12116
ECE: 12807
CS&Comm: 13949

AIEEE First Cutoffs!!!

Sunday, July 6, 2008

My Profile...

AIR: 10666

Went for AIEEE counseling today...

Things that I am getting in first counseling or am likely to get in the second counseling:

NIT Warangal

NIT Trichy

NIT Surathkal

NIT Allahabad

NIT Jaipur


NIT Bhopal


NIT Calicut


NIT Kurukshetra

NIT Jamshedpur

NIT Hamirpur

Subject of choice!

IIIT Allahabad Amethi Campus



IIIT Gwalior
Program available!

Recommended Choice:
NIT Allahabad Civil or LNMIIT CSE

Thumb Rule:
I read on Ankur Gupta's website that NIT first counseling goes up to 8000 AIR while second counseling goes up to 12000 AIR. From this I inferred that at whatever rank a subject finishes in the first counseling, say AIR 10000 for instance, there is a good chance that it will finally go around 50% more of that rank, ie. 15000 in this case. To be realistic you can expect a difference of 25-50% I guess...

Friday, July 4, 2008

Ranking the NITs, PEC, Thapar, LNMIIT,JIIT,DAIICT!!!

Ranking the NITs, PEC, Thapar, LNMIIT...

Very Good NITs
All the top 3 NITs are overall almost equal and the difference between Trichy and Warangal is so little that often there rankings are interchanged.


Good NITs

Again, there is not too much of a difference amongst the NITs in thie league however NIT Allahabad is better and does hold the flagship.

1.NIT Allahabad
4.NIT Jaipur
6.NIT Bhopal
7.NIT Calicut

Decent NITs

These NITs are not the best ones however if you are not getting a subject of choice in those mentioned above or if you don't get anything else, then these are not that bad either.


Average NITs
Worth going to only if you are not getting anything decent.


Worst NITs
Not worth going to.

Patna Raipur Srinagar Agartala Silchar

*DAIICT has been placed above PEC due to obtaining a rank 12th in DQ India 2008 and also due to its fast pace of growth.

**LNMIIT and JIIT are also expected with the Good NITs in another 4 years or so seeing the fast pace of their growth.

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Wednesday, July 2, 2008

LNMIIT Expected Cutoffs!!!

LNMIIT Expected Cutoffs!!!*

Last Year's Cutoff: 9246

CS: 9000-12000

CS&Comm: 11000-14000

ECE: 12000-17000

Reasons For Expected Drop in Cutoffs:

Increase in number of courses and seats.

Change in AIEEE NIT selection pattern.

*These cutoffs are just estimates as I think they should be. Don't go exactly by them.

Why is Amity so bad???

I know all these big advertisements have the common people wondering about Amity University... The truth is that it is crap, purely crap!!! Going for it is the best way to ruin your career. Stay off that university! This is why:

Intellectual Capital

Pathetic! Even this word doesn't do justice. People get admission without even passing 12th! Now what do we say about that. People who go to Amity are those who don't get through any engg any where and don't make it to DU or any other decent university either. So you can imagine the quality of those students. A few lakhs in AIEEE and most often 60s or 70s in the boards. Do you think they are capable students??? (Even if they have brains, they aren't willing to study at all!!!)


Get over the fancy buidlings and ACs. The labs are not upto the mark. People who acredit universities will vouch to this, DU South Campus Student's Welfare dean itself made fun of Amity on these grounds in front of me.


Poor and lacks knowledge! The faculty is just not upto the mark. They don't know their subject. Again that dean can vouch to that fact.


100% only on paper! Poor pay packets. I have heard that they throw you out in a couple of months. You are not gonna find any other job after that. So practically 0% placement.

Future Prospects

There is no future!!!


Noida - One thing which is good due to which it is still going...

Tuesday, July 1, 2008

How well have I done in AIEEE?

Know your IE Grade...

AIR 1000
Awesome!!! A++

AIR 2000
Superb! A+

AIR 5000
Excellent... A

AIR 10000
Very Good A-

AIR 20000
Good B+

AIR 40000
Decent B

AIR 70000
Better luck next time C

AIR 150000
Way to go... D

Below 150000
Not Qualified*

If you are getting within 10% lower than the rank mentioned above, eg: 10899 instead of within 10000 you still figure in the same grade, ie. A-.

*Not Qualified according to IE Ranking System

BITS Cutoff Released!!!


First Cutoff: 267
Waiting List Cutoff: 251
Expected Cutoff: 251